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Topic: Fedor Future Fights Against Current Top Heavyweights From UFC
Unlike others, I tend to think it is only a matter of time until we will see Fedor fighting against one of the top 5 fighters from UFC. Right now Fedor has only 2 fights left on his strikeforce contract. In addition, his contract is not exclusive, and requires him to fight for strikeforce only once a year. This means, once Fedor fights Werdum in June or July (and if he wins), he would be able to fight for any other promotion as long as the fight is outside the United States. Hence, if the UFC and Fedor's management will be able to reach an agreement and will be able to settle their differences, there is a chance that Fedor might fight Brock Lesnar, or one of the other of the following fighters: Mir, Carwin, Velasquez and Junior Dos Santos. If Fedor indeed ends up fighting in UFC this year, it will most likely be in Canada. Canada will be an ideal location for such an event since the event would be aired at convenient time for a PPV slot in the US. Another option, is for such an event to be held in Russia. Last time Fedor fought in Russia, Vladimir Putin and Silvio Berlusconi were watching his fight from the first row. To have an american president or any other top politician at an MMA event is very unlikely feature. Having major politicians in MMA event definitely adds to the credibility of the sport, which is still being viewed by many as a blood sport. If Fedor would have indeed fought in UFC, lets see how would he faired against the top fighters of UFC. Brock Lesnar: That would be the best fight in terms of marketability. If to look on it in terms of skill, than Fedor is much more skillful fighter than Brock. However, Brock has a strong weight advantage, and possess the best wrestling skills Fedor ever faced. I think if this fight would have to occur, Fedor most likely would have either knocked out Brock while standing, or sbmitted him from the back. Mir: I think Fedor is much better in every aspect than Mir. Mir has good BJJ skills, but he is not a world class ( while Fedor is the best Sambo practitioner in the World and one of the best Judo practitioners in Europe). Fedor probably would have knocked out Mir in the first round if they fought. Carwin: I think Carwin would have been the most difficult opponent for Fedor from all the UFC fighters, he is heavy handed, and he is definitely capable knocking out Fedor with one punch, but at the same time he could get knocked out by Fedor from one punch. I think if he and Fedor fought, it would have been like a duel, in which the one who connects first would most likely win the fight. I think Fedor would try to avoid standing up with Carwin, and instead try to take him to the ground to submit him.
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I, like quite a few others here, think that a wrestler with great ground control and size will be Fedors Achilles heal so to speak. So, I think Brock has the best chances at beating Fedor, followed by Carwin. I don't think Cigano has anything to offer Fedor that he hasn't already seen and dealt with and Im not sure if Cain is big enough.
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I have to agree i think carwin and lesnar are the best picks to beat fedor. Maybe mir.
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I went with JDS just because he is quick as hell and I could see some sort of KO or at least a knockdown that could possible lead to a TKO... Scratch that, I don't know or don't care really anymore.
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lol yes! Thats the spirit!
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Who the fuck wrote this "article"? More importantly, why did he even bother at that lame attempt to talk skill and match-up styles? All he reaaly did was say "Fighter A is very good at this and this, but Fedor would still beat him. Fighter B, on the other hand, is very good at that and that, but Fedor would still beat him as well". This was basicly just a blog about how this guy thinks Fedor could beat every guy in the UFC... not a comparison. Lame.... 
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Not sure, but I think Fedor would absolutely own Frank Mir. I'd like to think Lesnar would do to Fedor what he did to Couture and Mir II.
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Theres still alot about Brock and Carwin I havnt seen yet to really gauge how I think they would do against Fedor. Carwin hasnt even been outta the first round yet.
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stock wrote:Not sure, but I think Fedor would absolutely own Frank Mir. I'd like to think Lesnar would do to Fedor what he did to Couture and Mir II.
I totally agree on your first point, but not entirely on the second. Obviously Fedor would be coming into any of those fights as a favorite and rightfully so imo. I do not see anybody in the UFC just dominating Fedor nor do I see him getting stopped via ko, tko or sub. If Fedor lost to Brock or Carwin it would be due to a heavy base on the ground and either of the two just grinding him out to a decision. That I could see happening without being very surprised. Well, unless it was Carwin because I think Fedor would end that fight. That is purely on the basis that I haven't seen enough of Carwin to be overly impressed by him and his chin isn't as thick as he thinks his skull is. At the same time I do not like the odds of anyone trying to keep Fedor on his back for any lengthy amount of time. If it were to be any of these fighters you would have to assume that it would be for a title, especially if it were Brock. I honestly like Fedor's chances if he is given 25 minutes to secure a submission, no matter who his opponent is. So, basically if anyone were to beat Fedor in the UFC they would have to utilize what the good lord gave them (that being mass) and fight a safe and pretty conservative (ie boring) fight. If you try to explode on him to finish it then you will be subject to being caught by Fedor magic. 
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Zacchaeus wrote:stock wrote:Not sure, but I think Fedor would absolutely own Frank Mir. I'd like to think Lesnar would do to Fedor what he did to Couture and Mir II.
I totally agree on your first point, but not entirely on the second. Obviously Fedor would be coming into any of those fights as a favorite and rightfully so imo. I do not see anybody in the UFC just dominating Fedor nor do I see him getting stopped via ko, tko or sub. If Fedor lost to Brock or Carwin it would be due to a heavy base on the ground and either of the two just grinding him out to a decision. That I could see happening without being very surprised. Well, unless it was Carwin because I think Fedor would end that fight. That is purely on the basis that I haven't seen enough of Carwin to be overly impressed by him and his chin isn't as thick as he thinks his skull is. At the same time I do not like the odds of anyone trying to keep Fedor on his back for any lengthy amount of time. If it were to be any of these fighters you would have to assume that it would be for a title, especially if it were Brock. I honestly like Fedor's chances if he is given 25 minutes to secure a submission, no matter who his opponent is. So, basically if anyone were to beat Fedor in the UFC they would have to utilize what the good lord gave them (that being mass) and fight a safe and pretty conservative (ie boring) fight. If you try to explode on him to finish it then you will be subject to being caught by Fedor magic. 
Great post....thats how I feel about the whole Fedor vs the ufc thing aswell.I cant even believe that Carwin is even being mentioned as one of the fighters that could beat Fedor.He would end Shane in the first no prob.Most of the guys on the list besides Mir we havnt seen enough out of them to even asume that they are even in the same league as Fedor.....but all we can do is speculate and rant and rave on the boards about possible match-ups for him because its not going to happen.I still want to see Fedor vs Josh Barnett personally. 
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You know what, it seems to me Fedor cuts a tad easier than some and if one of our wrasslers got him down and pounded him for a while and opened up some cuts it could be a doctor stoppage! At this point I would not mind watching Fedor get knocked out cold.
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Puddin_Toes wrote:You know what, it seems to me Fedor cuts a tad easier than some and if one of our wrasslers got him down and pounded him for a while and opened up some cuts it could be a doctor stoppage! At this point I would not mind watching Fedor get knocked out cold.
Yeah that is the other way I see him losing. I was going to add that, but forgot by the time I was done lol. I am a Fedor fan and even if I wasn't I wouldn't want to see him get beat like that again.
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I personally agree with Zachareus with evrything he said, but I also agree with Puddin, that the only way that I will c Fedor get beat would be due to cuts or a doctor stoppage i dont think none of the HW's in the UFC would own Fedor and would come close to stop him decisively, b/c like Zacchareus said he only needs 1 lil opening to work his magic, and that's what Fedor has made his whole career on, one lil mistake and he will catch u with something.
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Plus Fedor is good at everything and has faced every kind of fighter there is to face.Tere is nothing that ufc fighters have to offer that he hasnt seen before.He exploites fighters weekness's and every fighter has them.Fedor said he doesnt study tape he studies the fighter when the fight is taking place....he is so fucking cool 
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drifter320 wrote:I, like quite a few others here, think that a wrestler with great ground control and size will be Fedors Achilles heal so to speak. So, I think Brock has the best chances at beating Fedor, followed by Carwin. I don't think Cigano has anything to offer Fedor that he hasn't already seen and dealt with and Im not sure if Cain is big enough.
I've always thought this too. There are posts from like 3+yrs ago before Lesnar even fought saying that Barnett would be the huge wrestler with great ground control and sub defense that would be the guy. But he's just about done and Brock still has a lot to learn and he's already dominating people. I say Lez.
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After seeing the issues Fedor had with Rogers's size, I'd say Lesnar then Carwin have the best shot. Big, powerful wrestlers who could put a hurtin on Fedor before the inevitable Kimura.
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i said brock....his size alone could be an issue. I know we've seen f-dog own.. whats his name the big asian giant? but brocks wrestling is really good and his fists are huge!.....if he can get on randy and pound him in i think he can do it to fedor.
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I agree with most that has been said. I think Fedor would kill Mir. I think he could very well struggle with Lesnar and possibly Carwin. I am not going to say that neither of them could knock him out though because I think they could. I also feel that Fedor could very very easily stop one of them as well.
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Well, from what I have heard, Fedor is comprised of tempered steel, has the reflexes of a cheetah, a mechanically engineered heart that never changes pace, and computer chips in his brain that allow him to predict the future... seconds before it happens. So in that case; No. Lesnar- and Carwin, JDS, Velasquez, and Mir for that matter -would not and cannot defeat Fedor. It's mathematically impossible. And if Fedor was defeated, he also has the ability to reverse time itself, so we would never know about it. The only way Fedor could lose would be if he fought "HE" , but that would ultimately destroy our planet... maybe even the entire universe.
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Triggerman99 wrote:Well, from what I have heard, Fedor is comprised of tempered steel, has the reflexes of a cheetah, a mechanically engineered heart that never changes pace, and computer chips in his brain that allow him to predict the future... seconds before it happens. So in that case; No. Lesnar- and Carwin, JDS, Velasquez, and Mir for that matter -would not and cannot defeat Fedor. It's mathematically impossible. And if Fedor was defeated, he also has the ability to reverse time itself, so we would never know about it. The only way Fedor could lose would be if he fought "HE" , but that would ultimately destroy our planet... maybe even the entire universe.
That is entirely right. geez, Trigger I thought you were already up to date with all of this before now. But you forgot the part where he arm barred God for all of that power. He bleeds only for the public to feel as if he is, at the very least, part human. In truth it is just an act and could be compared to ketchup and corn syrup. In all actuality Fedor is far to old for a mere mortal to comprehend. Many, many ages ago His birth day was transformed into a Birth penta-millennium, for lack of a better word, that really takes place every five millennia. 2012 is the next celebration for his birth. The smoke that rises into the atmosphere from his birth millennium candles will block the sun and doom mankind. How else would the Mayans have predicted the end of the world so precisely? It's all plain as day right in front of you. Edit: I know what you are thinking. Why does his Birth penta-millennium take place every 5125 years and not every 5000? I know, I wondered the same thing. Well, it is quite simple. Fedor operates on a partly celestial partly divine calendar and our barbaric time keeping just can't keep track as well as he does. The Mayans won a game of poker and received his divine calendar, but Fedor didn't like it and now we all know what happened to the Mayans... 
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At the very least, that explains why he seems to be in his fighting prime for as long as we can remember.... as well as for the foreseeable future; Because he has barely aged even an iode in our miniscule existenses. But you are mistaken on one thing; I never wondered for a split second why Fedor's birth penta-millenium takes place every 5125 years rather than every 5000 years... simply because I learned a long time ago not to question anything Fedor related. A long time ago (by human standards, not Fedor Standards), I wondered out loud if Fedor might someday pass gas that for once did not carry with it the scent of fine aged wine and yellow roses. Of course, we all know now that the thought of a Fedor-fart not accompanied by these aromas is simply ridiculous and outright ludicrous. Back then, sadly, I did not. To make a long story short, I was punished for questioning Fedor: My wife's breasts shrank one cup size. My dog choked to death on my cat. And I lost the ability to taste beer. All within 4 minutes and 12 seconds after my ill-advised "wonder" regarding Fedor's butt burps. Question Fedor? No sir, never again. Never again........
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Triggerman99 wrote:The only way Fedor could lose would be if he fought "HE" , but that would ultimately destroy our planet... maybe even the entire universe.
You do know that Fedor *is* "HE", right? That was the whole point of that joke when it originated here. Anyways, I know Fedor needs to fight better competition for anybody to understand his status, and while I understand there's a chance he might never do that (which saddens me, alot), I still think he's the best fighter going today.
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I don't know if I've ever been so confused at the end of a thread. What I gathered is this: Fedor > Mayans Milleneogram > Human Time Little Caesars > Domino's Grey Suit in drag =/= End of mankind
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The Diplomat wrote:Triggerman99 wrote:The only way Fedor could lose would be if he fought "HE" , but that would ultimately destroy our planet... maybe even the entire universe.
You do know that Fedor *is* "HE", right? That was the whole point of that joke when it originated here.
No actually, that's not correct. I was involved as anybody with that thread/ joke. A lot of us took Tree22's mistake on the thread title (Which read "Is He the greatest", but was supposed to be accompanied by a poll about Fedor, but wasn't.) and ran with it to make a big joke about who this "HE" character was. It just sounded so grand and god-like in the title that we started making up myths and legends about who "HE" was, and whoever suggested that "HE" was actually Fedor, we scolded them for it, promising them damnation if they ever compared "HE" to a mortal again. Therefore, the joke actually was that the "HE" mentioned in the title was a mythical being, not Fedor, as TREE22 intended. So you see, anyone that thought we were actually reffering to Fedor was lost. Trust me; go back and check out the thread again. Some members still don't understand the joke to this day, but I guess it's kind of an inside joke, had-to-be-there kinda thing between some of (TREE22, Jasunami, Ploppyseed (RIP), and a few others).
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