Ruthio wrote:I'm not entirely a fan of the idea that just because they are big for their weight class means they shouldn't get the recognition they deserve. Unless he's fighting Shane Carwin, Brock Lesnar is always going to be a lot bigger than all of his opponents. If you can make the weight and fight at the weight and win at the weight, that's good enough for me. I'm not gonna put Anderson down a few notches because he could cut less weight and fight 205 instead of cutting to 185. Both Hendo and Franklin are now back up to 205 so it's not like Anderson has been fighting really small 185ers and taking advantage of his size........the guys he's fighting are big dudes. Minus Cote....
That's just how I see it anyways
I agree with this 100%.
The guys still make the weight, so that is the only way you can look at it. Unless all fighters have to be weighed right before they step into the ring (which will never happen), there is no other fair/reasonable way to do it. I also don't think it is fair to punish someone in the p4p rankings just because they are bigger.
I also think that is a small difference in how I define my best p4p. I look at it more like division dominance.
That is why I put Fedor #1. There is no other guy that has dominated his weight class for as long as Fedor.
I put Anderson Silva #2. He has dominated his weight class for some time now, and seems to be so much higher than his competition. Many people will argue and say his competition is crap, but that is all relative. Just because he is so much better than his competition doesn't mean it isn't good.
I put BJ #3. He isn't higher than Silva/Fedor since he has not dominated for as long. BJ has (at times) shown weakness in many weight classes. If he can go up an beat GSP (which I think he can do), and then beat a #1 contender, he should move up above Anderson Silva.
#4 GSP. He has also shown spells of inconsistency, however no doubt he is very dominant. I am not sure beating BJ really proves anything for him as BJ has never shown real dominance at 170. I am not saying BJ can't still do that, but he just has not yet. GSP would still move up a spot, but that would be more due to BJ dropping down.
#5 Rashad Evans. They guy is undefeated in arguably the best weight class in the world. He has finished the current champ and an ex UFC champ. Not sure who is next for him, but if he continues to put away the stacked LHW division, he will be 1 or 2 in a few fights.
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#6. Miguel Torres. He has been as dominant as you can possibly be, but I just cannot gauge how big of a tallent pool there could possibly be at such a light weight class.
#7. Thiago Alves. Other than a (weak) victory due to not making weight, he may have had the best year of 2008, quickly plowing through the WW division. He will get his chance (hopefully) against the winner of GSP/Penn to show how high he can go on this list.
#8. Kenny Florian. Other than a slip up in 5 rounds against Sherk, he has arguably plowed through anyone in his tracks before and after him at 155. He will also get a shot at being top 5 if he can win the LW title if he ever gets the chance (thanks Penn!).
#9 Quinton Jackson. Other than a slip up against Forrest (losing an extremely close split decision), he has plowed through everyone in his path since getting KO'd by Silva way back in Pride. BTW... he just avenged that loss with an enourmous KO.
#10 Since many fighters start to gel together this far down the list, I am going to go with a wild card here. Gegard Mousasi. He has won 11 fights in a row now. He has won 6 fights in the last 12 months including finishes of Kang, Manhoef, and Souza.
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